chronic fatigue and vivid dreams

I have long believed that chronic fatigue and chronic pain were kindred diseases, perhaps reverse sides of the same coin. In my writings, I have explored the frequent occurrence of narcolepsy in people with chronic pain, including migraine. Sometimes this is full-blown, but unrecognized narcolepsy. More often it is some fragment of that disease, most importantly the vivid dreams known as hypnogogic hallucinations.

I suspect that hypnogogic hallucinations and other symptoms of narcolepsy may be rather common in people with chronic fatigue. My experience is limited thus far but I believe the idea just may pan out. If so, it will be interesting to observe the effects of stimulant therapy on both diseases. If any readers suffer chronic fatigue and also vivid, threatening dreams, I would like to hear from you

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Angela Unstead Posts: 18
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emotive dreaming - chronic fatigue and pain - fibromyalgia
Reply #24 on : Wed September 17, 2014, 17:48:13
I am a prisoner in my own body, being held hostage by my own mind.
I have suffered this and associated problems intermittently, for decades; currently so severe that most days, I am not able to achieve anything, let alone leave the house. These episodes last weeks or months and I am forced to lead a hermetic lifestyle, while desperately wanting to work or socialise, a least a little.
Using a keyboard is painful and exhausting so I won't/can't elaborate here, though I have many interesting theories I would like to offer. This is an old thread, and I am not even sure, still attended.
I will say that I have learnt to understand why and how i suffer but not yet been able to 'crack' the solution.
I will also add that, while it is unavailable to me, hence my extreme debilitation, a small 'dose' of marijuana, THC eliminates my anxiety at bed-time, and 'enables' me in many ways; restful, dreamless sleep and far more energy when I rise, gets me out of the chronic fatigue cycle and into what I call 'remission'. An evening 'dose' instantly relaxes me and reduces, particularly, my over-active mind and muscle pain. However my closest source is 200kms away, completely out of reach when I am at my worst and cannot drive.
I must stop typing now; it sets off so many complications!
Hoping something comes of this. I have SO much more to add!!!
Yours desperately, Angela
Carlos Montoya Posts: 18
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Constant vivid dreaming
Reply #23 on : Wed January 08, 2014, 10:30:27
I dont know what to make of the nightly and constant vivid dreaming, as a teen I spent a lot of time sleeping through depression and I became fairly good at controlling my dreams. I wake up a lot through the night, hot and in summer full on night sweating, and always never satisfied with my rest. If my dream was interesting enough or if something preferred dreaming to reality, I make the effort to go back. Its been a year, or about roughly the time I went smoking marijuana and the vivid dreaming stopped, restlessness stopped, so I correlated the two, but two months ago it began again. That was even while I was smoking so I dont know what it is. I recently quit smoking because I have priorities in money handling. I just dont understand why it would stop and start a year later, I am not depressed this time around, I am 21 now and always tired. Also I've always been sensitive with my awareness, I notice things I dont want to see, I hear things people say far away, and I dont mean super hearing, I'm just attentive without really wanting to be of what the person is saying the next room. Frankly I dont mind the ability to see with the detail of the "real" world and the ability of a "god", being able to do what I want, but the tiredness, the night sweats, its exhausting. Should I see a Dr?
Sue Posts: 18
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CFS and Vivid, Threatening Dreams
Reply #22 on : Thu June 20, 2013, 10:20:52
Hi, I was diagnosed with CFS two years ago after having shingles. I am over the tiredness and although I have radically changed my diet, I occasionally suffer other symptoms related to CFS, i.e. dizziness, memory problems, aches and pains that seem to be on the move! Recently I have started experiencing very vivid, threatening dreams. From time to time in my life I have been able to recall vivid dreams (since childhood) but nothing like these. In them I am not being chased but am face to face with someone unknown to me (always male but not the same character) who stares or leers at me and I feel extremely panicked. I wake up (at any given stage of the night/early morning) being able to remember the dream in detail and have to get out of bed for a while otherwise I cannot get back to sleep. I was wondering if this is connected to CFS? It seems to happen more when I've been doing quite a bit of exercise that day.
Rosarita Posts: 18
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dreams & fatigue
Reply #21 on : Wed March 20, 2013, 06:30:40
I have had disturbing, unpleasant dreams for at least 20 yrs (I am 68), and I've also had some symptoms of mild narcolepsy: (1) being able to have reasonable short conversations with someone who is trying to wake me, which conversations I do not remember, and because of which the other person thinks I am awake; (2) not being able to take short naps-- when I try, I stay asleep for at least 90 minutes, usually longer; (3) when I've participated in "guided fantasy," I've fallen deeply asleep while other participants awaken when the leader suggests. Re the conversations, I think I speak reasonably in order to make the other person go away and stop bothering me--stop trying to wake me up. I do not particularly like to go to sleep at night because of the dreams and because I am a night person and am more awake then than in the morning, when all I really want to do is keep on sleeping. That is, instead of winding down as nighttime comes as do "morning people," I become more awake and more productive, and I can keep working until suddenly I have to crash. Sometimes I am overcome by sleepiness during the day and simply have to lie down and sleep. When this occurs during the day, I am less likely to have the disturbing dreams, or at least less likely to remember them. I think I sleep too much--9 hrs a day--but when I was in grad school I slept 6 hrs a night. Even now, I can function pretty well on little sleep (but have to make up lost sleep later, or the next day). I don't like to sleep so much, and at bedtime I frequently become anxious that "it is time to go to bed" even though I'm not sleepy. From the time I was in college, I have had great difficulty getting up in the morning--overslept classes despite multiple alarms, and later when I was teaching I overslept classes as well. (I recently had a root canal done, and I was more anxious about getting up in time to get to the endodontist than I was about the procedure itself!) I find your correlation of narcoleptic symptoms with dreams and fatigue most interesting; I've only recently begun to suspect that there's a relationship between my unpleasant dreams and my feeling tired.
Vicki Posts: 18
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Chronic Fatigue, Chronic Pain and Vivid Dreams
Reply #20 on : Wed October 24, 2012, 19:04:54
I too suffer with chronic pain (migraines) and vivid dreams. I don't necessarily have nightmares, but I have very action-packed dreams every single night. I'm not sure if I'm tired because I'm fighting pain all of the time or if I wear myself out dreaming at night...
RJ Posts: 18
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Chronic pain, narcolepsy(vivid dreams) and OCD
Reply #19 on : Thu April 28, 2011, 07:24:12
My fiance has recently been diagnosed with narcolepsy. He has not be diagnosed with chronic pain or OCD. He is the most wonderful man in the world, however, this is hidden to the rest of the world because of the combination of these struggles listed above. He is currently seeing a doctor who is treating him for the narcolepsy by prescribing adderal. The adderal has helped with his EDS but has increased his aggitation levels. The doctor will mainly speak to me when we go in together for his appointment...he has a hard time communicating with K (my fiance) due to K's low tolerance for aggrivation. We have slightly mentioned some of our other concerns reguarding K's unusual amount of pain, anger issues, OCD, his vivid dreams, etc. The doctor sums it up to his Narcolepsy and offers very little advice or help in those areas. Out of fear of losing his prescription of Adderal which took forever to find something that works on his EDS we keep going to him. I would love to hear from you.....if the above email does not work since I am a teacher and this is my school email which blocks emails sometimes . I don't want to lose the man that I know that is there because of these conditions...please help!!!!!

Thank you
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D. Austin Posts: 18
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fatigue and vivid dreams
Reply #18 on : Mon April 11, 2011, 08:38:17
i have always suffered from fatigue and vivid dreams, as far back as i can remember. often something in my dream will come to pass, maybe not in the same manner, but I'll see, hear, or do something that i dreamed about. i dream almost every night, and usually remember them pretty well.
Last Edit: April 19, 2011, 11:03:59 by robertcochran  
Jill Posts: 18
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Vivid Dreams and Chronic Pain/Fatigue
Reply #17 on : Sat December 18, 2010, 13:42:59
I have suffered from chronic pain for 20 yrs. I also have a significant of sleep disturbances including vivid dreams. I often wake-up during or after a vivid dream and find it extremely difficult to switch from this dream state to reality. I definitely believe there is a connection between this interrupted sleep pattern(s) and chronic pain/fatigue.
Also, I do not have migraines. Mine is from an autoimmune disorder.
Tracy Posts: 18
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CFS, vivid emotional dreams, sleep paralysis
Reply #16 on : Sun November 28, 2010, 09:34:54
Hi,

I'm 22 and have had chronic fatigue syndrome for 10 years. I sleep about 10 hours a night and often have nightmares that are extremely vivid and emotionally disturbing. I often wake up from these dreams physically frozen. I am so tired all the time that it's ruining my life. Sleep study coming soon!
Brandon Posts: 18
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chronic fatigue/vived threatning dreams
Reply #15 on : Mon September 20, 2010, 15:07:41
This describes me to a "t". I am exhausted every day and experience dreams every night where I am, at the least, in a troublesome situation or, at worst, witnessning murder, war, and any number of horrible situations. I have been through hell the passed 4 years trying to treat my sleep and exhaustion issues including surgery for sleep apnea which worked but did not help my sleep to psychiatric drugs which only seemed to make my problems worse.
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